Re: Study Hall.

[Jim]

I don't worry about any of that stuff ... I stay within the parameters of the study and the rest is pointless to get into - which is where "they" want us.

[Jim]

Oh boy ... DOOM

http://in5d.com/dr-simon-atkins-frequency-shift-wave-x-predictions-the-good-bad-ugly/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQYhkkuIFw

[sunbern]

yep that tallies with a lot of what we are getting too,time will tell, in the next two or three months we shall see what transpires,there is an air of expectancy for sure just now

[Jim]

The part I like is that he already wrote himself an out ... just in case.

Wave X could be blocked.

Dr. Atkins stated there is a possibility that Wave X could be blocked by the ruling elite, “that are not necessarily human” who want to control this planet.

[sunbern]

ah ! but could they put ghosts on mars

[Jim]

"They" don't have to ... "they" just use what's there and wait for us to jump to conclusions

[sunbern]

[sunbern]

give this one a go think the dots are starting to be joined https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNPISSbuBQ

[Jim]

There are things I agree with and things I don't ... like the Watchers and Annunaki, but if the Swiderian arrival (which some believe is better shown as Kennewick man) idea is right, there's your BS input connection to the religious elite beginnings. "We know what's going on up in the sky - follow us." There's also info out there that links Shamanism with schizophrenia.

Of course the images we get lead us down "that" road ... but the second pic is said to be more accurate. There's also a said connection to native Americans.

http://news.sciencemag.org/archaeology/2015/06/mystery-solved-8500-year-old-kennewick-man-native-american-after-all

[sunbern]

hmmmm you can definitely see neanderthal  features in that reconstruction. http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/myths-neanderthals.jpg

[Del.]

That's a good one, never ever thought of putting those two things together, Mmmm mind boggling really.

I would say that reconstructed face definitely looked very native American.

Still cant watch vids, and links take forever, internet totally fooooked up.

[Del.]

hmmmm you can definitely see neanderthal  features in that reconstruction.           http://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/myths-neanderthals.jpg  

Where did you find that picture of me Bernie, Facebook??

[Jim]

The "who did it" right now is not as important as the "what happened." Humanity went along for thousands of years without this concentrated picture, and the eventual arrival of what seems to be bloodshed sacrifices. It was shut down about 7200 BC, but popped back up again C 4000 BC - and was not stopped ... welcome to the world we live in today.

If I add my picture to this, it all connects because we were "supposed to know something" - and somehow, "we lost it." "Religion" is a mental malware data program that rewrites the picture in our heads, and we wind up elsewhere mentally. Fixing this is a mess, but it can be done.

[sunbern]

good to see you del the sooner you come back and help us with this "mess " the better . found the picky while sorting through some old family snaps mate it's amazing how far back you can get with family trees these days !!!!!!

[Jim]

good to see you del the sooner you come back and help us with this "mess " the better .

It's not a mess really ... I can see what he is saying, but he hasn't gone back far enough to get the whole picture. You need a starting point (C 45,000 BC in rounded numbers), then you have a clear picture until the end of the C 13,000 BC superwave event. From there Gobekli Tepe pops up, and the idea of mental control looks like it begins there. It's stopped about 7200 BC, comes back C 4000 BC, kicks into overdrive C 3300 BC (more than likely connected to the minor superwave), isn't stopped, and travels all the way up to today. Once you have the skeleton, all you need to do is build on it.


found the picky while sorting through some old family snaps mate it's amazing how far back you can get with family trees these days !!!!!!

 

[Del.]

Puma punku seems to be a bit of a mystery as well, those stones have never been cut with chicken bones.
17 thousand years BC, someone other than us humans were definitely around with super technology.

Glad you found your family lineage bern....

[Jim]

17,000 ... really? Did you OD on Ancient Aliens reruns?

[sunbern]

so if our ancestors had pre ancestors of an earthly origin ( that we can only speculate about ), WHAT happened to them has got to be the big question ,was a global catastrophe responsible for their demise ? ,they should still be around because they were clearly a far more advanced race than the rest of earths inhabitants at that time ... where did they go ? why didn't they survive ? there is no evidence to suppose they reached our level of civilization but they should still be around and they are not .were they the Nordic race of et's that supposedly come to earth ,`rescued` and given the freedom of the galaxies by vising et races ,wow ,now there ARE some questions there ,I realise there is no hope of an answer but speculation can be good sometimes ,maybe the future of the human race was secured way back then and although our ancestors survived WE were never going to have a future on this planet or any other and `they ` knew it ......

[Jim]

so if our ancestors had pre ancestors of an earthly origin ( that we can only speculate about ), WHAT happened to them has got to be the big question ,was a global catastrophe responsible for their demise ? ,they should still be around because they were clearly a far more advanced race than the rest of earths inhabitants at that time ... where did they go ? why didn't they survive ?

OK ... what "advanced" humans are you talking about?  Shoes didn't even pop up till about 40,000 years ago along with other things in the Great Leap Forward, and that great leap was not technological. Granted, there have been things like building in pre-Egypt that seem "advanced" because no one ever did it before ... but before I'd quantum leap to an advance race, I'd take the word lone "genius" into consideration. Those people were "us" ... and even today, every once in awhile, "one person" pops up with the ability to see things the rest don't consider.

If the reverse etymology of "genius" is right as a picture, it shows the same ol' guess work thinking that explained everything else in their world.

genius
late 14c., "tutelary or moral spirit" who guides and governs an individual through life, from Latin genius "guardian deity or spirit which watches over each person from birth; spirit, incarnation; wit, talent;" also "prophetic skill," originally "generative power" (or "inborn nature"), from PIE *gen(e)-yo-, from root *gene- "to produce, give birth, beget" (see genus). Sense of "characteristic disposition" of a person is from 1580s. Meaning "person of natural intelligence or talent" and that of "exalted natural mental ability" are first recorded 1640s.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=genius&searchmode=none

I don't have a problem with "an advanced ancient human race" ... but for as long as the idea has been in our faces, there isn't one shred of evidence for an entire advanced "race." People have tried to make one, called Atlantis, and when it was discovered that the place where Atlantis was supposed to be showed no signs of the event that destroyed it - THEY MOVED IT (in their minds) TO A NEW LOCATION! Really? How the hell does THAT work?

Yeah, speculation is fine, and shows people are trying, but ... hard data is better.

[Del.]

17,000 ... really? Did you OD on Ancient Aliens reruns?

Na not really Jim, just wondering who the hell were these people who built this stuff.

[Jim]

In all honesty, with the amount of people who have been looking into this stuff, the amount of time they have put into it, and the simple fact that we are no closer today regarding a picture of what it's all about, tells me to leave it alone and do something else. It all sits quietly on a shelf in my head that says "when you finally figure it out - call me."

Was the figure 17,000 years ago ... or was it, as this site says, "...there is a 98% probability that Puma Punku dates from after 527 CE." You can read this when you have time, I'll be sitting under that tree over there pondering other things It all fits the usual picture of going 'round and around in circles - where we stop, no one knows.

https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/tag/puma-punku/

[sunbern]

http://www.gotquestions.org/Anunnaki-Nephilim.html      I'd like to know what all those animal sculptures are about at gobekli tepe  ,a depiction of noahs ark maybe after the `cleansing` of the earth ( all shoes gone ) lets face it contact with aliens has been a cover up from start to finish we will never know because they don't want us to......... prove ME wrong ... http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood3-t-atrahasis.html don't give up we've only just started !!!!!!!!!

[Jim]

As far as the Anunnaki go, all I can say (and I keep saying this) is read what an EXPERT in ancient languages has to say, regarding the idiot (Sitchin) who started all this BS.

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/letter/letter.htm

As far as the Nphlim, if you look at Genesis 6 (and we went through this too) the layout covers a picture where there was "just people living their lives," and then - "others" enter the picture. This idea of "other PEOPLE" (the sons of the god(s) and nphlim and finally the gbrim) are the representation of what we are calling the religious elite. The outcome is that "things on earth" got "so screwed up" that "God" pulls out his last hair and sends the "flood of Noah" and everyone dies.

If we compare this to history ... we have the entrance of an unknown group into the lives of people and Gobekli Tepe pops up. From here all the control in Anatolia begins, the world (or really their neighborhood) evidently gets really screwed up, and the Mediterranean tsunami picture (C6000 BC) is what was later interpreted as the flood of Noah.

As far as "aliens" ... I don't go any further than the parameters of my experiences and the picture involved, and the above is an explanational part to that overall picture. "Once upon a time, we knew what was going on ... then, we lost it." How did that happen? The religious elite - in two phases. Phase one was stopped, phase 2 was not stopped ... welcome to the world we live in.

[sunbern]

https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/the-lady-of-guadeloupe-a-miocene-homo-sapiens/ interesting ....tacked on to your previous link...

[Jim]

Good one. I love this reference:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
—James Downey, Billy Madison  

This is the same picture we are dealing with, and yes, I will say this again too - we are NOT the people who should be doing this work ... but at least right now - we are all we have.

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