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Post  Jim on Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:50 pm

Brenda Marguerite wrote:Jim do you know anything about the Yellowstone Volcano erupting? Read last week this was immenent, with a loss of massive lives. As i have followed this over the years, would appreciate your views on this. Thanks.
Just got in.
I don't know anything more than the next person ... there's more magma down there than they thought, and, there were roads melting. Other than that dunno

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Post  Jim on Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:56 pm

sunbern wrote:i'll just throw this into the melting pot ,was having a conversation with a neighbour of mine today ,he and his wife are totally convinced that we are reincarnated and the levels are a reality ,he quoted the Dalai llama as being as near to God as humanity in its living form can get .He also said that people who are aware of having experiences akin to a previous life are in nearly every case living what almost amount to a tandem life and that the host of their body died in a traumatic way ( maybe there is a pattern there I don't know but strange I should open this to that very subject and I didn't instigate it ..Synchronicity strikes again ..
As much as I can say about that, is that it doesn't exist. It's just more programming from the religious elite.

Since one of the main beliefs in Hinduism is that the consequences of your
past decisions have determined your present state, reincarnation plays a
huge role in the prevention of people revolting against the caste system.
Reincarnation was created by the Aryans in order to justify the oppressive
behavior they were imposing on the natives and to keep the people from
rising up against the system.

Reincarnation bolsters caste oppression in
two ways. It justifies injustice, and deflects hopes for progress from this
life to a “next life.” For the people on top of the caste system (the
Brahmins), reincarnation justifies why they get the privilege of high-class
birth. Those privileges were earned through virtuous behaviors in their
past lives, and a privileged birth proves that one deserves privilege. For
the people on the bottom, the Shudras and the untouchables, reincarnation
justifies why they suffer for their low birth.
http://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=socssp

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Post  Del. on Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:07 am

In other words, ''A catch 22''.......winners win, losers lose. cheers d'oh

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Post  Jim on Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:52 am

Well, if we go by that definition: "...a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions" ... I would only say there is "no escape" because people have been programmed "not to think, and to just take the information as given." Things we deal with are constructed of component parts, just like anything else. In this case, people "see" reincarnation, and that's where it stops. I "see" a historical picture that goes back (in round numbers) about 3000 years prior to the arrival of this NEW belief, and it seems to have all the earmarks of the "approach" used on people during that 3000 year time period. It's at this point, because people have no counter argument to protect their "belief," that hostility in different shapes and sizes begins (cognitive dissonance), and people walk off in a huff.  

These "religious" approaches regarding life after death seem to show we once knew what was going on, even at a base level (either that or we're ALL wrong, and when you die - you just - DIE). The problem in the overall picture is that the main idea has been reformed, over and over and over again, with new contexts, for control sake. The modern "psychological approach" shows this to be connected to anti-social personality disorder, and it's still going on today ... we call it new "denominations" of a base religious belief, but it's still mental control / "I'm right and everyone else is wrong," and today they make a living based on their BS.

Will we ever wake up? I don't see it happening. dunno

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Post  sunbern on Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:42 pm

surely then this must be the win ,win , http://www.dalailama.com/biography/a-brief-biography



according to the 14th Dalai lama, "the prime purpose is to help others, and if you cant do that at least don't hurt them " I don't see that as domination in any way shape or form ,just the best ever way to live our lives and live in harmony ....I do agree re Hinduism though ..

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Re: Study Hall.

Post  sunbern on Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:52 pm

the question I am pondering at the moment is how does someone ,get what I can only describe as a `calling` to go to a certain place ,and once there describe exactly the previous life of a person who formerly lived there .ok I can understand it from an adult perspective but what about child's `flash backs ` of a former life described to the smallest detail ...

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Re: Study Hall.

Post  Jim on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:16 pm

sunbern wrote:the question I am pondering at the moment is how does someone ,get what I can only describe as a `calling` to go to a certain place ,and once there describe exactly the previous life of a person who formerly lived there .ok I can understand it from an adult perspective but what about child's `flash backs ` of a former life described to the smallest detail ...

Well the "adult" perspective is obvious ... but the child's perspective (at least according to the accounts I have read) are all based in nightmares they had when they slept. I just call it paranormal data transfer.

All the "weird" experiences I had, after the ET subject was dropped on me to study, ALL happened in my sleep during the night. It's the same thing ... paranormal data transfer. In other words, they "put" information in your head.

According to the interpretation of Rosemary Ellen Guiley, the one experience I had with the "shadow person" who had what I perceived as a cape and hat, and she called a coat and hat, was a powerful Djinn. I don't buy her approach for a second, because if anything, this "all powerful being" screamed like a bitch and ran when I yelled at it to get out of my room.

As far as a "calling" goes, you'd need an overall picture of the doctrine. Bottom line - if it's BS there was no "calling." It doesn't have to be "domination" in a physical sense ... but it's all "control."

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Post  sunbern on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:51 pm

[quote="Jim"

as far as a "calling" goes, you'd need an overall picture of the doctrine. Bottom line - if it's BS there was no "calling." It doesn't have to be "domination" in a physical sense ... but it's all "control."[/quote]





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Post  Jim on Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:57 pm

sunbern wrote: Hope you never said "I do " if you ever married my friend No chuckle

Yeah once - and when that was over, I never said it again rotf

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Post  sunbern on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:57 pm

I always respect men and women speaking from experience Laughing

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Post  sunbern on Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:08 pm

http://thehiddenrecords.com/cahokia-mounds-sioux-bird-man.php               have a look at this ,Herschel seems to be pretty meticulous with his research ... ( Thanks Brenda )

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Post  Dreamwalker on Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:11 pm

My daughter was about 3 when she began talking of a different life,she would say things like "when i was older" or "when i lived with my other mummy", i used to get goosebumps on my arms,which is a sighn to me that was she was saying was true .it wasnt mixed up speech,she was very definite during those times,she has described another world where we communicated by thought and everybody had a twin.
She became a little woman in november last year (if you get my meaning) since then she has seen the image?figue of a girl at school standing near the toilets,she thought it odd but thought no more about it.a few days later they were looking at old photos at school and the figure she saw was a girl in one of the photos who was at the school in 1980. she heard and felt our old cat who died a few years ago jump on her bed and has been having dreams she describes as real.

Have any of you come across this before ? i have neither seen nor heard of this anywhere.

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-saturn-black-cube/
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Post  Jim on Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:01 pm

Dreamwalker wrote:My daughter was about 3 when she began talking of a different life,she would say things like "when i was older" or "when i lived with my other mummy", i used to get goosebumps on my arms,which is a sighn to me that was she was saying was true .it wasnt mixed up speech,she was very definite during those times,she has described another world where we communicated by thought and everybody had a twin.
She became a little woman in november last year (if you get my meaning) since then she has seen the image?figue of a girl at school standing near the toilets,she thought it odd but thought no more about it.a few days later they were looking at old photos at school and the figure she saw was a girl in one of the photos who was at the school in 1980. she heard and felt our old cat who died a few years ago jump on her bed and has been having dreams she describes as real.

Honestly, with the amount of stuff that has gone on in your life, it doesn't surprise me at all.




Have any of you come across this before ? i have neither seen nor heard of this anywhere.

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/decoding-illuminati-symbolism-saturn-black-cube/

Yeah, but I don't get into it ... there's nothing there that connects to the topic I'm looking at.


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Post  Jim on Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:05 am

How do we "get into trouble?" By "trouble" I simply mean "wandering down roads of information we shouldn't be on, AKA, we get lost." Like Alice, the picture is akin to "falling down the rabbit hole," and the next question that needs to be asked is - what do we do when we get there? Do we stay there ... or, try to get out? How do we get out of a hole that deep? Well, why weren't you thinking about gravity to begin with?


Everything is made of something ... the concept of learning via "hard data" is nothing more than a verbal breakdown of the component parts this "thing" you are looking at is made of. Since people would rather "believe" what they are looking at is real, if you counter their "belief," a war begins in their head where the opposing pictures simply battle each other until one wins (usually their original belief). This battle has a name, and is called cognitive dissonance.

I'm going to show you a video / rabbit hole. Can you see the point where, as you are leaning in to look, gravity takes over - and you are pulled in? Or, do you stay back and analyze the data?


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Post  Brenda Marguerite on Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:21 am

Dreamwalker. I can understand exactly, what you are saying. When my son was 12years old, i used to stand outside his bedroom door listening to him talking in this wierd language, this went on night after night for 3 years. When i asked him the next day who he was talking to, he said he couldnt remember. One day not long after this he said he had spoken to a man, in his sleep who was helping him in life. Well someone certainly is protecting him. at 3months old , he had a diseased kidney, drs told me he wouldnt live, if he did he would always be a cripple as he wouldnt ever sit up or walk. Well he was walking at 9 mnths old started school at 3 years old. To give him a chance of mixing with other children. Since then he have been knocked of his bike at 15years old, had peritnitis, it was touch and go. Two years ago i got a phone call at 1 30 am to say he was seriosly hurt in hospital with a broken back 4 broken ribs , other injuries, he was in hospital for weeks, on coming home i looked after him for ten weeks. Asking my Angels and his to give him healing. Another bike accident. Well he recovered and went back to work, which suprised drs and the surgeons at hospital. So yes i really do believe he has someone looking after him in life. When he was born he had a star on his forhead, this faded when he was 2 years old.I dont think anyone can explain why these things happen in life.

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Post  Jim on Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:47 am

Brenda Marguerite wrote:I dont think anyone can explain why these things happen in life.

I agree, hence that video I posted. "Someone" worked with me for years, until I moved to N Carolina - and then they were gone. Whoever it was, was there when I went back to NY for a visit, but, it was like they had to stay in NY, which I find - interesting. dunno

There are positive and negative paranormal "things" that go on ... and the only real problem in the picture is when people start defining them. Maybe we once knew, maybe not. What I do know is that definitions are the root of mental control, AKA, the "Alice factor."

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Post  Dreamwalker on Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:41 pm

Jim, i thought it odd that i had never come across The Black Cubes and Saturn thing,theres quite a bit of info about it and most stuff ive usually seen or heard about or read about somewhere,so i wondered if any of you had heard of it.

Brenda, i believe ive always had someone watching over me too,ive had warnings before about possible dangerous situations,where all my senses are screaming at me and are super sharp,its almost like an alarm inside.
Iwas introduced to a helper one time while Channelling, He told me he was on patrol in Germany and he was killed because he knew too much,he was a squaddie,he told me he was a watcher to protect me.
I also had a dream one night in which i was introduced to this man who had long blonde hair,he was absolutely gorgeous,beautiful in fact,he had a star in the middle of his forehead that was glowing. in the dream and in reality i know he wasnt human.

Your son definitely has somebody looking out for him.
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Post  sunbern on Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:12 pm

very interesting ,the black cubes and symbols have been with us for a very long time it seems dreamwalker ,fascinating stuff ,I intend to read through that again and try to get a bit more from it .thanks for posting .

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Post  Dreamwalker on Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:05 pm

I thought it odd i had not come across it before anywhere. something to have a ponder on anyway. Wink i know what Jim will say lol. Wink
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Post  sunbern on Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:00 pm


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Re: Study Hall.

Post  Jim on Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:32 pm

sunbern wrote:wonder what he will make of this ?   ( thanks again Brenda )
Well, if you have to wonder I guess you don't know me LOL ... go ahead - take a stab - what would I say chuckle

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Re: Study Hall.

Post  sunbern on Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:05 pm

Hehe ,yeah I should have known better ,but that fourth vid was worth listening to ( I thought ). I  guess we have given the whole subject good scrutiny over the years and to be honest short of seeing an et face to face I don't think there is much  that would phase me or for that matter much more to be gleaned from the majority of the  ufo websites  ! or ancient aliens on tv ...Hehe alien

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we are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances    Sir Isaac Newton  

man's search for meaning is the primary motivation in his life   Victor frankl (professor of neurology and psychiatry )                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              All I know is that being "told" stuff is generally attached to "confusion." Why is that? Well, what is it doing? It's keeping you from learning ANYTHING. Welcome to the pissed off world of the anti-aspect. If they're going down, they are taking us with them.       jim 2016
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Re: Study Hall.

Post  Jim on Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:57 pm

So ... ummm ... what's missing in the Nosty data? whistle

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Dr Lee Smolin.
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G. K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)
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Re: Study Hall.

Post  sunbern on Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:02 pm

could'nt see the cost of guaranteed survival in there but I bet for a few hundred dollars all will be revealed tin foil hat chuckle

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we are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances    Sir Isaac Newton  

man's search for meaning is the primary motivation in his life   Victor frankl (professor of neurology and psychiatry )                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              All I know is that being "told" stuff is generally attached to "confusion." Why is that? Well, what is it doing? It's keeping you from learning ANYTHING. Welcome to the pissed off world of the anti-aspect. If they're going down, they are taking us with them.       jim 2016
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Re: Study Hall.

Post  Jim on Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:09 pm

That's it huh ... d'oh

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Dr Lee Smolin.
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It isn't that they can't see the solution, it's that they can't see the problem.
G. K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)
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