Re: Study Hall.

[sunbern]

Will start on the bodybuilding excercises in the morning

[Jim]

Will start on the bodybuilding excercises in the morning

I can see it all now ...

[Del.]

Mmmm,

[Brenda Marguerite]

Love to see that. Probably collapse at first post. LOL.

[sunbern]

Hehehehe .I love you guys

[Jim]

I would suggest watching this video - it'll be gone tomorrow.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/02/24/a-quest-for-meaning.aspx

[Del.]

Too late just the one and a half minute trailer...

[Jim]

I downloaded it ... but it's too big for an email attachment.

[Del.]

No probs Jim.. It will probably turn up somewhere else..

[sunbern]

i'm really miffed ,got it started watching it then got a call ,had to go out came back to it just now and only trailer grrrr .It looks really good too cant even find it free on u tube .Ahhh well guess we are not meant to see it Del .

[Del.]

I know what you mean Bern, you can watch it on Vimeo for £3:12 but I'll skip it for now.

[sunbern]

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/thevisitaae/114501654 i enjoyed this

[Del.]

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/thevisitaae/114501654            i enjoyed this

Watched half of it, will watch the rest tonight.
Although only half way through it, I would say its very hypothetical and acted out like it was a real situation going on now, my guess is that it is what is going on now as we here damn well know it, will watch the rest later.

[sunbern]

Yep ,from here on i think the dripfeed will shortly turn into a torrent

[Jim]

OK .. I'm back.
Let's just say I have been dealing with these - spiritual - people ... and frankly - I'm not impressed. I get the idea this is a private group, isolation is to negate the influence of normal everyday people who would think they were nuts, but even their information differs from person to person, and quite frankly, I don't get it
This "confusion" picture ramps up if I walk in with MY approach to learning, even though I'm in there because, by definition, my experiences fall into their "spiritual" category. It boils down to another case of logic vs beliefs, and "you can't understand cuz you didn't have these experiences." Really? When I look at 1+1 I know what I should see as an answer. Where is the answer?

This entire picture falls into a category called "groupthink."
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

My approach regarding "spiritual" includes the "negative" aspect that paranormalists just call "ghosts." The psychological picture is identical to humans, as is the language usage. My question is - why are they even here messing with us? There's a breakdown of my approach regarding the number of negative spirits that are  - here? - on this page. I ask - if there are an average of 1.5 deaths a second, globally, how many of the - rejected? - negative personalities that cross over, are STILL HERE and WHY?
https://www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org/spiritual-problems/demonic-possession/worlds-population-affected-by-ghosts/

There is a - possibility - that some experiences they have had, ARE via negative influence. It would take a complete dismantling of the entire experience to do this, so - that isn't going to happen. I did this inquiry with my experiences, because it was a logical approach. Evidently, they don't think it is.

Anyway, we can get into this more ... for now, take a look at that page.

[sunbern]

Wow ,according to those guys we are in the middle of world war 3, not sure we are, my postman still comes most days and the local supermarket has'nt run out of loo rolls or bread ! ahhh well i guess if trump gets it wrong in North Korea there's still time ( dont worry it will all be done and dusted by 2025 by all accounts ) and there is allocation to widen the goalposts ( time frame ) is'nt there always ! call me a sceptic but i'm not rushing to buy a tin hat and i'm not holding my breath either ...

[Jim]

In all honesty, I don't think any of them are STUPID enough to start a nuclear war. No one wins ... period.

[Jim]

So no one has a comment on the number of spirits stuck here?

[Del.]

Where are they all, I've never seen one..

[Jim]

Where are they all, I've never seen one..

Do some EVPs ... maybe they'll take the insoles out of your shoes

It seems, based on the overall picture, involvement creates - problems - and disturbances in you life. Sometimes you don't have to "do" anything, and they are there. I can't agree or disagree with the numbers or interpretations on that site, there is too much data missing, but I do know whatever all encompassing life after death "picture" we have is grossly flawed.

[sunbern]

My dad once said he saw a ghost and many of my trustworthy friends likewise ,they exist without question in my mind ( although i have never seen one walk through a wall or anything like that ) but as you say the big question is what keeps them here. my only contribution would be maybe they were close to a parallel universe or crossover point ( when they passed over ) that sometimes allows them to be partially visible i dont buy into the theory that they are the evil ones or that they died in some gruesome way .

[Jim]

i dont buy into the theory that they are the evil ones or that they died in some gruesome way .

The "attitudes" are definitely there ... some are REAL bad. The "experiences" people have had in the "alien" subject are paranormal too ... some are highly antisocial / narcissistic. All I know is that we are missing a TON of information regarding what goes on over there.

[Del.]

Do some EVPs ... maybe they'll take the insoles out of your shoes

Well I certainly agree with you on that score Jim..

[Del.]

What did you use to get the electronic voice phenomena Jim ??

[Jim]

What did you use to get the electronic voice phenomena Jim ??  

Just a voice recorder I downloaded on my phone. I figured I'd start there and if it wasn't good enough I could move on to something else ... but it worked.

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