Re: Study Hall.

Del. Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:52 am

Yeah I had a look around the site Bern, I agree there is some interesting stuff on there but also some bizarre weird stuff.
I suppose the Huffington post has always been a bit out there if you know what I mean. Wink

**Jim** Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:04 am

At the risk sounding like a broken record (remember records? chuckle

) this is why I stick to the subject and see what, if anything, fits the parameters. The constructivist method can take a long time, but it's thorough. In this method, if you don't get enough information to answer your question, put it on a shelf in your head until you do; this way it isn't making you nutz.

Del. Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:00 am

I thought we were all categorised as NUTZ following this subject anyway........ chuckle

**Jim** Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:18 am

I presented my case twice, remember ... whistle

sunbern Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:44 pm

yeah but have you been tested lately fella affraid

**Jim** Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:18 pm

I'd go through it again - got nuttin' else to do chuckle

Del. Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:48 am

You could go chasing Aliens.......... lol!

sunbern Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:54 am

or even poltergist's !!!!! hide

after all it is nearly haloween .why not join us in the forest you're sure to see one affraid

**Jim** Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:59 am

Oh, I have a feeling if I showed up there things would get - really interesting. Twisted Evil

sunbern Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:28 pm

I so wish you could jim but cest la vie ... think there are gonna be a lot down there this year we shall see what transpires anyway ,hopefully someone will get some good pictures I can send through ...

**Jim** Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:41 pm

Stuff like that is all a show for the human audience. I'd be more impressed if actual usable information was given, but ... dunno

**Jim** Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:53 pm

Somewhere in here, I think scratch

we touched on that idea in circulation regarding the universe has a computer code embedded in it, and it's like we are living in the matrix. Someone in another forum brought this up again, and I've been trying to get information on it to look at it a little closer. This is basically a counter argument I found.

(Yeah - brace yourself chuckle

)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgDaKL_YpKM

Del. Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:06 am

Another brain scrambler. I never understood a word that was being said, and I thought I was Intelligent.

Take me away to the funny farm...... d'oh

sunbern Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:27 am

well if you fell at the first hurdle Del I shant even bother getting on me orse !!!!!! lol!

come on jim we are only mere mortals not quantum physisists ..I'm thinking now that maybe only a handful of superinteligent human beings are privy to an awful lot of upper echelon info ......

sunbern Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:46 am

http://www.ancient-code.com/author/ancient-code/ well it seems the microchip is old hat so why not the universe with a computer code in it ? ,your task for today find out where the chip was placed and no rude answers chuckle

**Jim** Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:31 am

sunbern wrote:http://www.ancient-code.com/author/ancient-code/ well it seems the microchip is old hat so why not the universe with a computer code in it ? ,your task for today find out where the chip was placed and no rude answers

This ancient code site is the key to a lot of stuff ... if you like said "stuff" made of BS. whistle

Anyway, since I can't be "rude" chuckle

I'll just say that 800,000 years ago (are these people out of their minds) they slipped it UNDER the Sphinx, as apposed to sticking it somewhere else - WITHIN - the Sphinx.
rotf

http://www.ancient-code.com/scientists-geological-evidence-shows-the-great-sphinx-is-800000-years-old/

Why is it that whenever Russia is involved, the picture always gets weird? hmm

**Jim** Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:42 am

sunbern wrote: come on jim we are only mere mortals not quantum physisists ..

Neither am I ... but there is enough in there to determine a counter argument, even though we may not understand the science.

Del. Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:54 am

I have always had the thought that we had far more advanced civilisations way back in time that became extinct by global catastrophes.
Whereby the human race evolves itself after each global event.
To me this is where ET (our distant ancestors) may fit into the big picture. who knows......We may have colonized Mars at some point.

**Jim** Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:13 am

I don't have a problem with that, but if that was true, there'd be evidence - but there isn't.

Look at the post I just made in current events ... if that hit, what would the seismic repercussions be? What would the nuclear reactor repercussions be? We'd be another of those "earth advanced civilization" stories that had to "recover" from a "global catastrophe." There'd be evidence literally "all over the place."

sunbern Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:55 am

cant deny that jim ,saw a tv prog once about the demise of man made structures and creations like the hoover dam would last thousands of years after humans ceased to exist ,but what do we find of possible previous civilizations that reached our level of technology ,we have to be realistic about this either there was a cover up ( by et's ) or there wer'nt any ....

sunbern Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:28 am

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/is-americas-mysterious-waffle-rock-proof-of-ancient-high-tech-or-a-natural-formation/ this is about as good as it gets a natural geological ( probably volcanic or water created ) anomaly ,can anyone improve on this ? .... just an add on ,I cannot get my head around how those beautifully sculpted pieces of architecture from places such as gobekli tepe and puma punku were made and assembled before humanitity was even beyond the hunter gatherer period of history.... how can we speculate these achievements without at least wondering whether the people of those times had help or just watched as et's created them ....

**Jim** Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:42 am

sunbern wrote:... we have to be realistic about this either there was a cover up ( by et's ) or there wer'nt any ....

I am being realistic. The most confusing experience I had was the 16 months experience. I failed for one reason - I let a tiny bit of unverified information in, by saying to myself - "WHAT IF?" After 9 years of continual re-examination of the picture from every angle, the bottom line is hard data wins, "what if" cannot be used.

Sooo ... I don't have any "beliefs" - what I have is a picture that is constructed by the data I have, and is constantly in flux. It all sits on a revolving table in my head, and as I get a new piece of information, it gets added to the pile. The post I made about the "Halloween asteroid" shows the two approaches in a joke fashion.

I don't have a problem with ancient advanced civilizations ... except no one seems to find any. dunno

It's like life after death ... I don't "believe" we go on after death - it's just that the data points in that direction. I have questions about it, and I'll get more answers as I go along. Like, where's the dividing line between us and everything else that lived here? Or is there one? Why are WE special? Or ARE we? Is it a made up religious "ego picture?" If, like people say, animals "go on" after death, what about the dinosaurs? What about the ancient animals that died in the mega-fauna extinction event? Why am I the only person that seems to ask these questions?

Ancient civilizations? No problem. Got proof? hmm

**Jim** Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:09 pm

sunbern wrote:http://www.messagetoeagle.com/is-americas-mysterious-waffle-rock-proof-of-ancient-high-tech-or-a-natural-formation/ this is about as good as it gets a natural geological ( probably volcanic or water created ) anomaly ,can anyone improve on this ? .... just an add on ,I cannot get my head around how those beautifully sculpted pieces of architecture from places such as gobekli tepe and puma punku were made and assembled before humanitity was even beyond the hunter gatherer period of history.... how can we speculate these achievements without at least wondering whether the people of those times had help or just watched as et's created them ....

Well, if you want to "improve on this" - you should take a look-see around for some scientific explanations.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Waffle+Rock+boxwork+sandstone

Boxwork sandstone:
“Waffle rock” resulted when sandstone was deposited in a stream, filling cracks and joints in existing rock. (Conemaugh Formation, 300 million years old).

Don't think that's right? That's fine ... find more information. Welcome to constructivism.

The problem with these sites is that unexplained sensationalism is more important than answers. The problem with people is that (for the most part) people never look stuff up ... the entire UFO subject has been based on sensationalism, and not hard data. My biggest argument with these "researchers" is that they have ZERO experiences, take subjects they know NOTHING about, come to conclusions based on what they WANT to see ... write books, and live happily ever after. And since NO ONE argues with this approach, we are in the middle of BS city. When people TELL you stuff - that's classical teaching. When you question what is said, go out and look for your OWN answers, THAT'S constructivism.

As far as gobekli tepe goes, there really isn't anything there that hadn't been done before, albeit on a "small scale." All it is, is a mega expansion of carvings. And man WAS beyond the hunter gatherer stage, as farming (at least locally in the Levant) had already been going on and was organized. Look up "the Natufians."

I'm still slowly putting a picture together, and am in no particular rush, but the idea is ... you have to look. If all you want to deal with is sensationalized unorganized pictures, have at it. The difference in the picture is simply that you let everybody else think FOR you, or, you do it yourself.

Del. Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:15 pm

**Jim** Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:39 pm

Now go out and find as much information as you can to back up his story ... or, just believe him and take his word for it. Welcome to constructivism cheers

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