Re: Study Hall.

[sunbern]

i'm still watching as many couldhart vids as i can find on u tube He really does get some interesting people to interview ..Take care fellas ..

[Jim]

yep he comes in useful every now and then (we dont want him getting the idea he's amazing so we'll keep that one under our hats Del . )

[Del.]

Great stuff.... Don't you go working your socks off Bern, take it easy mate. Bad times in old Blighty at the moment Jim, I think the pressure cooker has burst..

[Jim]

It's supposed to be 104 again here with no sign of rain, so ... count your blessings.

[sunbern]

Del means the riots mate and with Trump saying we are on the verge of world war 3 things are racheting up .I think we are in need of your taxi and pretty damn quick ...

[Jim]

Hadn't heard ... I don't keep track of the news, I'm so damn sick and tired of the ignorance on this planet I just can't take it anymore.

[Del.]

Thanks for that Bern, I wondered why Jimbo referred to the heat out there, But I do agree with him it pisses me off as well seeing and listening to all the crap that's going down on the planet today. Then again looking back at history I'm not really surprised, its always been like that.

I also agree about the taxi. Happy days.....

[sunbern]

well maybe it's an age thing three grumpy old men an all that lol ...Anyway no use letting it get you down .You know what they say "when yer up to yer neck in hot water be like the kettle and sing ! " take care fellas chins up and let's keep goin and when this wave eventually breaks on the shores of humanity we can all say told u so you ignorant bunch of cloth eared imbeciles ...

[Del.]

we can all say told u so you ignorant bunch of cloth eared imbeciles ...

[Jim]

So, with all the stuff you've been reading - anything worth talking about?

[Del.]

Its a case of, we all know most of it from years of the reports, its just that the first book from your link went into finer detail. The second book deals with the Roswell incident area 51 and Wright Paterson, its the story mostly of whistle-blowers who worked in these places in the past, we know most of it but as I said it goes into finer detail, so I cant really think of anything that would be of new interest, but if I stumble on anything worth talking about I will mention it.
I'm only on chapter three in the second book so I might find a snippet somewhere in there.. In-between a one day of sunshine sunbathing in my garden.. we certainly don't need the factor 50 over here.

[sunbern]

Too true Del .We arnt used to it .so from 20 to 35 degrees c is a big no no for me .(i cant even go out there in it Del ) I hate it to be honest ..Anyway to quote the famous physicist Michio Kako ."The next time any of you get abducted make sure you steal a bit of alien hardware and bring it back with you or nobody will belive you " Thats where we are ,where we have always been and unless the guys holding stuff in underground caves somewhere disclose what they have we are about where we started all of this .True we have given it good shaking down but all we can say is having researched (i would say very thoroughly in your case Jim) we are still at the starting gate .We all believe but if we tried to explain what we have seen or experienced most of the public would laugh us out of the room ..Where we go from here i cannot honestly say but try as we might we are not in control of the agenda so our hands are tied .I am really sorry no one had the decency to reply to your emails mate you have tried so hard .I don't want to pack in trying but as i read Richard Dolans book After disclosure i am beginning to believe that we are all clutching at straws to be perfectly honest (dont worry i will shake off this dispirited mood i am in tonight over the next couple of days ) ...Dont forget to look out for the meteor shower tonight ..

[Jim]

35c is par for the course here in the summer. In fact last week it hit 40c (105f). Fortunately the humidity is low here so it's "mostly" tolerable.  

As far as the alien subject ... whatever we might have had, it's long gone. We've been dealing with the religious elite story tellers for thousands of years (where do you think polytheism came from) and it doesn't stop.

As far as "where we go from here" ... I'm just sticking with me and us, everyone else out there can laugh as much as they want ... but it will eventually catch up with them.

Regarding Michio Kaku's comment - I've been involved in this subject since '55 ... never been abducted once.

[Del.]

Bernie and I will come and abduct you Jimbo.... But we wont do probing or mess with you, we promise..

[Jim]

Bernie and I will come and abduct you Jimbo.... But we wont do probing or mess with you, we promise..

I could never understand why an advanced race would need to do anal probes.  Goes to show you how residual information in your head can lead to dreams (or, it's paranormal).

[Del.]

[Del.]

A new one for you Bern...

[Del.]

How they managed to close the UFO subject.

The Condon report.
The final report was not supposed to go back
to the Air Force; rather, it would be released to the public. However, the
hidden memo spelled out a more nefarious plot. It read:
The trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that, to the
public, it would appear a totally objective study but, to the scientific
community, would present the image of a group of nonbelievers
trying their best to be objective but having an almost zero
expectation of finding a saucer.
One way to do this would be to stress investigation not of the
physical phenomenon, but rather of the people who do the
observing—psychology and sociology of persons and groups who
report seeing UFOs.
If the emphasis were put here, rather than on the examination of the
old question of the physical reality of the saucer, I think the
scientific community would quickly get the message.
The plan had worked, and the Pentagon was privately celebrating never
having to utter another public remark on the subject of UFOs again.

Like Moses coming down from the Mount Sinai with
the stone tablets, officialdom sets the rules—and often breaks them. Many
labeled the Condon Report a “whitewash,” and the case was closed before
it ever started. The Air Force had its scapegoat.

[Del.]

Now we need to ask who Edward Uhler Condon was and what stake he
may have had in sabotaging the perception of UFOs among his scientific
colleagues. Condon was a nuclear physicist and a pioneer in quantum
mechanics. He was endorsed by none other than Albert Einstein, and even
has a crater on the moon named in his honor. After the Condon Committee
report was released, when asked why he took on such a risky project, he
answered, “On the basis of appeals to duty. . . . do a needed public
service.” We can now surmise that such duty extended all the way back to
the time of Roswell. Back in 1947, samples of the actual wreckage were
sent for analysis and identification to the National Bureau of Standards—
under the directorship of Edward U. Condon. This was the same Edward
Condon who was supposedly unbiased, objective, open minded to the
evidence. The same man who, in a speech at the Corning Glass Works at
the very beginning of the UFO project, stated publicly, “It is my
inclination right now to recommend that the government get out of this
business. My attitude right now is that there's nothing to it . . . but I'm not
supposed to reach a conclusion for another year.”

[Jim]

We've been listening to stuff like this for YEARS ... what do we have? Nothing. Even at the end of this vid Coulthart says: "I wanted you to hear Cruickshank's analysis, not necessarily because I agree with it, I'm going to reserve judgement and remain agnostic on the MJ12 documents..."

There are always a ton of stories, after which we still have nothing.

[Del.]

I know we have nothing whatsoever, and on it goes but that's why I started reading those books because it gives me more insight into this phenomenon.
I also think we will never get to know the truth unless joe public talks to Mr ET directly.  Until then its a merry go round. The second part of that Coulthart video did open my eyes though, if true..

“All truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.”

[Jim]

I know we have nothing whatsoever, and on it goes but that's why I started reading those books because it gives me more insight into this phenomenon.
I also think we will never get to know the truth unless joe public talks to Mr ET directly.  Until then its a merry go round. The second part of that Coulthart video did open my eyes though, if true..

“All truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.”

For me ... 1st it's questioned. Second (if possible) it's researched. Third, depending on the outcome of the research, it's put in its proper place. I don't get into these kinds of stories because it's just not possible to say if it's true or not.

[Del.]

Point taken and accepted

[Jim]

It's kind of like those NDEs on YouTube ... was there any proof these events weren't just written out by someone and sent in? Nope. This is why they go in the directions they go, and people who never question anything - just believe it.

[sunbern]

Thanks Del will check that one out sometime over the weekend .I am not very happy about chatting with my phone (much preferrred my steam driven laptop) but hav'nt had time to get a new one yet so still managing to keep up but only just on my geriatric mobile lol .

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